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Post  Mazakaru on Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:19 pm

Hey everyone starting a sign up to see who would all be available to run 5-1 and 5-2 this Thursday, it's a lengthy battle so I just want to make sure everyone is going to be prepared this week. As is important with almost every CoP mission, make sure you have all items needed, this one is a promy so just like the last ones you will need some animas, so suggest using the animas on the three nm's you have to fight to make it boss and one you save at the spire, go back and get another batch, once you get to the top it saves so you can be ported right back up, anyways this is all stuff we have to discuss so please use this post to give us your input, thank you. Also after we get done with chapter 5 things get much easier of course until you get to the dawn, then you get you pretty little ring with awesome stats as a souvenir.

5-1:

Walkthrough


Pso'xja Composite Map
Zone into Port Bastok for a cutscene.
Head to Metalworks and talk to Cid at H-8 for a cutscene.
Zone into Pso'Xja from Beaucedine Glacier at F-7 for a cutscene.
Important NOTE: At this point you are basically about to enter Promyvion - Vahzl, so there is no reason to do this section solo, and you benefit nothing by doing it beforehand. You should get your Promyvion - Vahzl group together now, and be prepared to start the Vahzl mission.
This Pso'Xja tower is uncapped. Follow the path forward until you find a stone door, which, when checked, spawns an NM Golem named Nunyunuwi.
This NM has approximately 3500 HP, though offset by an innate Auto Regen trait that restores 100 HP per tick. See Discussion for testimonials
When Nunyunuwi is defeated, check the door to move past it.
Nunyunuwi only has to be defeated one time. It is not required to defeat every time one passes the door.
It is advisable to cast Sneak or use a Silent Oil then head down the elevator.
Do not cast while on the elevator, as you can get magic aggro.
Check the Stone Door for a cutscene. You will arrive in Promyvion - Vahzl, where you will get another cutscene and start the next mission. You will also obtain the Light of Vahzl when you enter.

If solo'd can be done by:
Note: Any melee Job at 75 can solo this NM but any weaker jobs such as WHM will probably need (or just want) another damage dealer job to speed up the fight.
Soloed by a 67BLU/NIN by spamming Frenetic Rip, Bludgeon, and Mandibular Bite.
Soloed by a SAM69/WAR34 by 2houring and starting with 300 tp.
Soloed in less than 10 seconds as 75PUP/WAR with Harlequin frame (Dragon Kick to a full power Magic Mortar to instantly defeat it with the resulting Light skillchain. Mine did 800 Dragon Kick, 1700 Magic Mortar with 1700 Light.)
Was EASILY defeated by LV75SMN with predator claws.
Soloed by a PLD75/RDM37 with Bio II/Poison DoT and straight tanking. Casted Stoneskin/Blink/ProIV/ShellIII/Blaze Spikes/Phalanx before engaging, but most likely didnt need it
Too weak for 74RNG/NIN using Hellfire + Silver Bullets, store TP from any mob nearby and open with velocity Shot and Sharpshot, pop a Slugshot, Barrage, then Slugshot and closed with EES, 30 seconds max.
Soloed by 75 Scholar/RDM with Blink, Phalanx, Stoneskin and Sublimation fully charged. 2-hour Tabula Rasa is advised using to speed up the killing time. Nuking with Parsimony + Alacrity + Ebullience + Thunder IV/Blizzard IV kill it within 5 mins.
Easily done by 75 RDM/BLM with Chainspell + Blizzard III. Nukes didn't seem to be resisted at all, usually hitting around 600 with a critical of over 700.
Easily done by 75 DRG/WHM with Stoneskin and Blink up, 300TP. Used 2 times Penta Thrust and Jump + High Jump and lost 100HP over the whole fight
Easily done by 75 SAM/BLM waited until I had 200+ TP before popping the NM, but could have been done without any TP at the start. Very easy fight.
Soled by MNK69/WAR34 ... touch and go at the end, could have used a bit more prep, but 3 Footwork/Dragon Kick WS's and he was dead.

5-2

Walkthrough

Promyvion-Vahzl (climb)
Promyvion - Vahzl is capped at level 50.
Promyvion - Vahzl is five levels instead of four, and the mobs are stronger to match. Like the other Promyvions, it's only tough if you or your party is aggroing everything in sight. Be patient, wait until openings occur. It can be done.
On levels three, four, and five, you will have to search for Memory Flux gates before proceeding to the Memory Receptacles. They will spawn NMs; these are mandatory fights and required to proceed with the mission.
Third floor: Propagator (Gorger type)
The Propagator will spawn multiple Offspring, be prepared to deal with these adds.
Fourth floor: Solicitor (Craver type)
The fourth floor NM Solicitor has a dangerous single-target attack and an AoE Poison attack that deals damage and gives a strong poison effect. Strongly suggest all melees have 3+ antidotes and macro them for quick access. Also, have someone stick Gravity on the NM so you can Cure-Bomb without worrying about any threats to the healer.
Fifth floor: Ponderer (Thinker type with AOE Sleep so bring poison pots).
The Ponderer can also absorb food and spell effects, so make sure your tank doesn't eat defense food when you're getting close to Ponderer. If it absorbs a Tavnazian Taco and Protect it is almost impossible to hurt with melee attacks.
After you defeat each NM, check the Memory Flux a second time for a cutscene. Then heal up and search for the next Memory Receptacle.
On the fifth floor, you do not need to search for the Memory Receptacle. Proceed directly from the Memory Flux to the Web of Recollections.
When you receive the cutscene at the Memory Flux, you gain the ability to warp directly to that Memory Flux from the gate in Pso'Xja. This allows you to bypass the lower floors in case you need to leave or are helping someone else with the mission later on.
If you don’t defeat all three Memory Flux NMs and get the cutscenes at those areas, you will not be able to cross to the Web of Recollections within the Spire of Vahzl.
Web of Recollections (Fight)
Enter the Web of Recollections and be prepared to face each of the earlier Promyvion bosses one at a time. From left to right, they are Procreator (Gorger type), Cumulator (Craver type), and Agonizer (Thinker type).
You can choose which boss to fight first; the next boss in the sequence will then aggro when the previous is at about 20% HP.
If you pull Cumulator first, Procreator attacks next, and then Agonizer.
If you pull Agonizer first, Cumulator attacks next, and then Procreator.
If you pull Procreator first, Agonizer attacks next, and then Cumulator.
It is simplest to remember that each will attack in alphabetical order.
When the Spire battle is cleared, you will be warped outside of the Nue Tower in Beaucedine Glacier.
(Optional) Talk to the three Tarutaru in the tower at (I-7). There will not be a cutscene from the three Tarutarus, nor will the mission log change.
In order to complete the mission, talk to Cid in Bastok Metalworks for a cutscene.
Notes:
As with all Empty, their elements will be random. It is shown as a flame burning somewhere inside their bodies, colored to match their element.
The battle is capped at 30 minutes.
The bosses won't aggro at all, the only way to get them to attack is to either attack them first, or wait till one boss is at 20% HP, when the next will automatically aggro.
You will receive 1500 experience for winning the fight.
(see testimonials)
Strategy tips:
With a fairly skilled Paladin and Damage dealers unleash their weapon skills at 20% of the Procreator's HP, the Procreator can be easily won without pots, anima or using two hour abilities, which will leave you with plenty of options to deal with Agonizer and Cumulator.
The Procreator can usually be tanked for some time when it's HP is high without having to fear bad TP moves or an invasion of the Offspring It seems that the Procreator either has a high resistance to enfeebling magic , my Party set up was Nin/War Dnc/Nin Pld/War Rdm/Whm Blm/Rdm and Mnk/War, we successfully Gravity kited Agonizer and Cumulator with the Nin tank, but the Procreator resisted multiple casts of Gravity, Bind, and several other enfeebs, I'm not sure if this was due to its element for the BCNM or not, would appreciate someone else looking into this.
The next boss in the sequence will always aggro when the current boss is at 20% HP. Delay this mob with Terroanima and/or Bind/Shadowbind until you can finish off the weakened mob, which shouldn't take long. Also Rdm can kite with Stoneskin/Phalanx and Bind.
If you have a NIN, after the first NM has reached 20% and the 2nd NM begins its attack, the 2nd NM can be easily kited by the NIN while the rest of the party rests. This can also be done with the 2nd NM at 20%; the NIN would kite the 3rd (final) NM while the party rests. Make certain that the NIN has Haste at all times while kiting; also, the occasional Gravity will assist with Utsusemi timers. (Clear time for the BC using this NIN kite method was 17min~).
If your party has a full set of anima, use one Psychoanima/Hysteroanima pair at about 50%, and a second at about 25% on each boss. If you only have one set per boss, use it at 25%.
Watch out for Cumulator's Impalement early on. If it kills the tank, it's probably easier to leave the BC and try again. Impalement is a move similar to Throat Stab. As such it will always deal a very large amount of damage, but will not kill the player. The following normal attack is the main threat.
Any Offspring Procreator spawns will die when it dies, so just finish it off to get rid of the Offspring. If the Procreator is a problem below 30% because of the spawns, have a PLD, with Invincible ready, use Invincible @20-30% to maintain hate of the Procreator and its spawns (spawn hate is shared with the Procreator) while the rest of the party finishes it off.
Agonizer continues to be the strongest. The Agonizer can use an ability called Negative Whirl which is a moderately powerful AoE that hits for 270~. A Hysteroanima is highly recommended for the Agonizer at 20% and lower to avoid Negative Whirl spam. Negative Whirl is a huge problem if you've have been inflicted with Curse (max HP and MP down to 75% of normal) and Sleep from its ability Shadow Spread; many melee will only have 400-600 HP max. Save resources (2-hours, MP, etc.) for finishing it quickly. Use Poison Potions if you brought any to awake you from Shadow Spread.
Blue Mage's Headbutt is very helpful, as it can prevent many melee and TP attacks by the bosses. Two BLU can make this BC much easier by creating a Headbutt rotation. The NMs hardly get a chance to use attacks or special abilities using this method.
The tank must not eat defense food until Agonizer is dead. If you have a Paladin tank, pulling Agonizer first allows them to use food for the other two bosses.

credits go to http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org


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Post  Crusty on Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:13 pm

looking foward to this 1..im in..have 3 animas for this alredy,but as you all know the more animas the better off we'll all be,so if anyone wants to farm them let me know will definatly help with getting more of these
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cop 5-1, 5-2

Post  Taoyin on Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:25 pm

i'll be there, but it will be right around 5pst, it is cutting it close with work and traffic

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Post  sephrioth on Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:54 am

I can't make this one as i will be working, any chance we could pls sch a re run for sunday same time, otherwise it looks as this is as far as i go Sad done the NM fight for 5-1 just need to do the prommie

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Post  Mysthic on Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:15 am

I'll be there.

Fight may be an issue though, as it's 6 man only, but we'll see.
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Post  Sinatra on Wed Aug 12, 2009 4:29 pm

Hey again! Very Happy
Count me in Smile

[also, please hit me with /tells sometime between now and then so a few of us can farm anima together.]

I can come Ninja, Warrior, Monk, or Samurai~

:::Edit::: This goes for the re-schedule too.


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Post  Sashimiaru on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:55 pm

I can attend, but I'd rather give people this week to get their cutscenes done and be fully prepared for this mission.
I don't know if we have the jobs available for this mission this week, either. If you think you can make it this Thursday night, please (re)reply with what jobs you have at lvl 50.

The actual mission fight is limited to 6 party members as well. It would be unfortunate to have 1 pld do the fight 3 times in one night... just because certain members cannot attend--who also will eventualy need the clear as well (just an example, but party set up will be a problem).

But like I said, I can make it, and I'll go, but I don't think the timing is right.
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Post  Mazakaru on Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:40 pm

I agree with you Sash, I didnt think everyone would be ready for it this week but i wanted to put a sign up anyways , I'm going to just go ahead and postpone for one week so we will make it next thurday same time, thank you everyone for their patience!!!

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Post  Cindelle on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:58 am

ok I'm completely lost now ... the poeple who signed up above sashi's post.. are they signing up for this week, next week or what ? Smile

I could swear those posts where there a few days ago (( I do look up posts pretty mutch everyday )) but that wasen't the tittle of the post last time I looked on the forum.
ok maybe I'm the only one who finds this confusing so I"ll say I"m sorry in advance. Should we consider everyone that signed up below this post to be signed up for next week then ?
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Boss Fight Items

Post  Sinatra on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:23 pm

*sigh* ok.., Sleep
After farming in Promy Mea & Holla for more hours than i'd like to admit;
i managed to farm 18 recollection item drops for Promyvion-Vahzl.
[ 6 guilt = terroanima, 7 fear = hysteroanima, and finally 5 pain = psychoanima ]
I originally just went for myself since i couldn't find anyone online from the CoP LS,
But now i'd like to donate/spread these across LS.
Hopefully it will help save some time and frustration.
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Post  girlygirl on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:44 pm

ALrighty- Thanks for farming the recollections ^^ I owe you. aha xD .
I can make it Thursday or today of whenevre it is, you guys all confused me -.-
I can only come as WHM because that's the only job i have high enough >.< See yous soon.
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Post  Mazakaru on Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:31 pm

I was just saying I agree with sash that we should give people the chance to get everyone thing ready for this mission so we can do it next week but hey if you want to and theres six people you can feel free to make attempt!!!!

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Post  Crusty on Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:21 pm

im in again Very Happy have 6 animas 3 on mule 3 on me..can come blm-bst-smn- let me know
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Post  Cindelle on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:36 pm

Alright Sashi and me whent farming for recollection as well we got 6 guilt 5 fear and 7 pain ... so if I know how to count (( and I think I do Razz )) if we combine with Sinatra's farming we should have 12 set to distribute. Smile

Just send one of a us a note to get your share cause I don't really whant to have to hang on to all that for a week ~.^
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